No, all these scripture above are contrary to your saying; our lack of faith cannot prevent Him from acting if He wants to just does not fit. He did not change forms and become spirit. Itss just cool. Darnell Jonas spent his weekend in the black churches where he said there are only black.. If you cant learn how to believe and stand on the word of God and believe that youre healed before you see it, then the majority of you are not ever gonna see the physical manifestation. It sounds like youre ready to help fix things too, which puts a smile on my face. Even a single example is enough. As the founder and pastor of Elevation Church home of the popular Christian music group Elevation Worship he has a great amount of influence and a worldwide audience. I thank you for holding true to the message Jesus taught and the foundations we see from Genius to Revolutions. I dont say that to say that Im right, but to point to the objective fact that what Furtick teaches, and what youve repeated, simply contradicts Scripture. Your James reference you switched up, 1:3 should be 3:1 . There is only one God, and He never created anything like Himself so we cant say that He is like an egg, or an apple, or the sun, or whatever. Thousands have responded to the news of the elder Furtick's passing by writing to the pastor via social media simple messages like "love and prayers," as did LifeChurch.tv Pastor Craig Groeschel. I hope you wont be discouraged by what Ive written, and I hope youll accept the challenge to dig into Gods Word to see the truth for yourself. I teach this very plainly: bad things are always bad, and never good. In Romans 14, for example, Paul tells us that there are disputable matters. With all due respect to other writers of websites (and makers of videos, and tweeters of tweets), many who talk about false teachers are willing to call someone a false teacher simply because they disagree over disputable matters. But, and if any one, the closest would be, God did not heal Paul because, in His wisdom, had a purpose for Pauls suffering that resulted in greater glory for Himself than healing Paul could have accomplished. GodWords exists to point people in the direction of Scripture for all things, not to provide a place for everybody to say whatever they want. But we know Christ is near and and LTrain is close to his reward," read Pastor Furtick's message earlier in the day that he had titled "Dad's final round with ALS. There can be just one family. It confirmed everything that I have seen and heard from Steven Furtick. Again, why this foundation of being, rooted and grounded in love? Because faith works by love, Galatians 5:6, and must continue in this love, if our faith is to work John 15:9. The trinity is hard to understand because God is triune, but nothing else is. God did not heal Paul because, in His wisdom, had a purpose for Pauls suffering that resulted in greater glory for Himself than healing Paul could have accomplished. Changing did not to could not says something that favors Furticks theology, but does not reflect what Gods Word actually says. And immediately he received his sight, and followed Jesus in the way. Heres Furtick, talking about Gods encounter with Moses in the wilderness: When God said I Am to Moses, you know, my name is I Am, He was trying to get him to see you are as I am. This is nonsense. He knows better than you or I what your father needs. If a man is truly born again, he has the Holy Spirit as his guide into all truth. He seems to believe what hes saying. The number of times someone is right is irrelevant to the question of whether they also teach false things. I didnt cite the judgment part because I think he goes too far. Okay, I have taken enough of your time. If healing belongs to us, why was Paul never healed? No, Im not aware of him teaching on sin and repentance. Those things are all found in the New Testament, so of course were going to agree on that. I thought He could do anything. It said, He could not. He wanted to. In researching these topics, Ive heard a LOT that I appreciated, and have been inspired by even those who are otherwise far from the truth. They are both real in the spiritual realm, (both already provided according to 1 Peter 2:24), yet only procured through faith, for by grace through faith are we saved (sozo). From Scripture, we know that Jesus is NOT the Father, and that Jesus is NOT the Holy Spirit, and that the Holy Spirit is NOT the Father. Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires. He is unique. There are plenty of Scriptures to indicate that God may respond to us based on our actions, or our faith. You, or the writers of Scripture? I dont mean that you might create a circumstance where God has already made decisions about what will happen, as when someone dies after a lifetime of rebellion. You gotta get healed in your heart, and then release it. Those things might include speaking in a foreign tongue, or healing, or something as simple as gaining insight into how to explain the gospel to someone. They interact with one another because they are distinct from one another, as you and I are. Jesus sacrifice was the trick that restored mans dominion. Nothing He could have done would have made them believe, for they had hardened their hearts against the revelation that they had enjoyed. There were plenty of people that Jesus never healed. Because as created creatures in a 3 dimensional world, we can understand how one can be 3-a carrot sliced in three pieces is still a carrot- but we cant understand how 3 can be one. When Christians talk about Jesus, they acknowledge that He is God. Its correct in that theres only one God, but its wrong on the rest. He didnt know about making disciples, as the KJV only says to teach and doesnt say make disciples. When we walked through some other New Testament verses about discipleship, he was grieved. Advertisement Image source: Facebook// Steven Furtick What is Steven Furtick's theology? South Carolina had the highest population of Furtick families in 1840. Youre gonna have to get to a place where what you believe in your heart is more real than what a doctor says, more real than what your body says. The question is not whether anyone can be saved at Elevation Church. That attitude is the prerequisite for vs 15, Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Relying on the Lord Jesus this way ensures us that He will correct us if we begin to go off on a tangent. Women should never cut their hair. Its rare to see a young man like Steven Furtick living in a 15 million dollar home with several astronomically priced vehicles in this day and age. God is not a multiple personality being. That would be closer to oneness theology than trinitarian. While you and I would probably be on the same page as to what those things mean, its important to be clear: If you and I sat down over lunch and talked about these things, Im confident that we would find a lot of common ground. Steven Furtick is an African-American who grew up in New York. When Jehovahs Witnesses talk about Jesus, theyre using words that sound the same, but have a different meaning. In this way, God only APPEARS AS the Son and the Spirit. Im not sure I can be more definitive than that, without pretending that I know things I couldnt possibly know. Please, let me encourage you: there may be bad things happening in many churches, but there are also good things happening as well. Jesus still has a body, by the way He didnt stop being human after the resurrection. Please be specific. He draws us to Himself, or we could not be saved. Here are the ways that better translations render tava: vexed, provoked, pained, distressed, caused terrible pain, offended. The Greek word translated did is, Furticks focus is not on the events outlined in the text, but on the belief of those around Jesus as the limiting factor in His ability to do miracles. The information on this page will make such abundantly clear. The only relevant question is whether Steven Furtick responsibly teaches what Jesus taught. Can Revelation 22:18-19 apply to the whole Bible. Here are a few: There are TONS of verses to choose from. For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. Judge not yet you be judged. We all have some things wrong, Im sure the goal isnt to nitpick, but to warn people that false teachers are all over the place, and to encourage them to compare whats being taught with what God has said. 13th April 2020. One would think they know God better than we do. Not I. In other words, God mostly withheld His power from the stiff-necked people who held Jesus in contempt. Yet that is not true, for the word is clear; John 12:47 And if anyone hears My words and does notbelieve,I do not judge him; forI did not come to judge the world but to save the world. Furtick and Munroe teach that there are things that God wants to do, but CANNOT do. Tony, Dont even listen to yourself! Modalism has been considered heretical by the entire Body of Christ for almost 2000 years, so its not as if its a new idea. Theres a gigantic difference between Jesus not doing many miracles because of their unbelief and Jesus being unable to exercise Gods power because He was entirely powerless to do so. I have recently been struggling with breaking free from my past sins. I really do appreciate this discussion. What matters is what the Bible teaches, and whether those who preach and teach in Jesus name are teaching falsely. I'm Annoyed. Thats the reason that so many of the warnings in the New Testament say to not be deceived: to avoid that, we must know the gospel. Yet, is Furtick teaching heresy, for this is what John was saying; For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7. What does the text say? Thanks, Thanks for your patience. I is the first person, You is the second person, They is the third person. Passion City Church Pastor Louie Giglio also tweeted at Pastor Furtick: "Lifting you up to Jesus and . After all, Christ did heal when people had weak faith. Pastor Steven Furtick of the Elevation Church and his wife Holly Furtick are blessed with 3 Children in their marriage, two sons, Elijah and Graham, and daughter, Abbey. Each has a relationship with the other we see whats called a subject-object relationship. He could pass any minute, or it could be days. Yes, its possible to present the true, biblical gospel while being wrong about a lot of things. Ps Gabriel Hughes writes, It only resulted in God following through on His promise. So no, modalism is not a false doctrine. The word Sought covers a lot of ground. If the decision were mine, I would not allow a church music ministry to use songs by false teachers whether Jehovahs Witnesses, Elevation, Hillsong, or Bethel. With all due respect, Word of Faith teachers ALWAYS demote God and elevate us. Narcigesis makes Scripture about me. Singular: just like in English, the number of subjects that the verb applies to. The book of Revelation was, when written, not part of the Bible. Dont get me wrong: it has always been inspired Scripture. Someone gave me a good example that Ill share with you: if the Jehovahs Witnesses started producing really good music that your church liked to sing, would you be okay with that? He seeks the lost, does not delight in the death of the wicked, and wants all to come to repentance so His character is such that we receive all manner of blessings from Him that are entirely unrelated to whether weve gained any approval for our efforts. I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. The scripture are flush with such scripture, and I shared many in my last response, as truly all things (healing, deliverance, and salvation, which is the greatest miracle) are possible, but one has to believe! The power of God was in Nazareth, but it was trapped in their perspective. If you knew that he was teaching falsely, I dont believe you would repeat his errors, because you know that what we believe about God really matters. ", Upon her father-in-law's passing, Pastor Furtick's wife, Holly Furtick, tweeted another passage: "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his faithful servants. This is unbiblical nonsense that doesnt match the Greek text. To suggest that God is not all-powerful goes against 3500 years of biblical witness, every bit of Judaic and Christian belief, and hundreds of verses of Scripture, both Old and New Testament. Wommack, as you point out, teaches that we can limit God. Modalists have that part right: there is only ONE God. Then you might, when the time is right, ask him this: What would you say to someone who explained Jesus ascension this way? and then quote Furtick: and now Jesus is taken from their sight, and hidden in a cloud, but he did not leave. It would be a mistake to apply these penalties to any other passage of Scripture, as the context will not allow us to do so. Every pastor gives their interpretation of what the Bible is saying (Ive been a licensed minister, so youre talking about me). Also who died and left you in charge of judging anyone? If Im not a man of God then why did I start out this ministry with ZERO readers and grow to over 160,000 per month in a short period of time? Remember let us make man in our image? God needed someone to show the world what He looks like, or else He would have just been a concept. Pastor Furtick, 33, founded the Matthews, N.C., Elevation Church in 2006, and the Southern Baptist megachurch averages about 15,000 weekly attendees across seven locations in North Carolina. God wasnt powerless yet Steven Furtick claims that He was. Do you know what his conclusion was? Being a preacher, Furtick's primary source of income. This too goes beyond Scripture to the point of contradicting Jesus words. Youre right Steven Furtick doesnt seem like a womanizer or a manipulator. I hope youll take all of this in the spirit in which it was written: from one brother to another, with respect, and even a little fun. Is that the standard we find in the New Testament? Ernest Angley made the same kind of claim: By begging God in fear, doubt, despair, rather than asking in faith, He is limited. As with all Word of Faith teachers, this demotes God to a subordinate position and elevates man to a superior position. What Christ DID NOT do in fulfilling the law was to make that which was immoral now moral. The doctrine of the Trinity comes from the Bible. That is convenient, yet to throw it out as false because someone uses it, is also wrong. Youre asking for advice, rather than advising. Right? If Steven Furtick IS a false teacher, then playing Elevation music in your church promotes a false teacher, funds his ministry, and adds to the problem rather than solving it. [21] Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, [22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. Healing comes not from the outside in, it comes from the inside out. JOIN Elevation Church Sunday Service at 11:30AM with Steven Furtick, Live Stream March-05-2023. The screenshot below is from page 4 of Elevation Churchs helpful Spontaneous Baptism How To Guide. Thats not good. Do you know of any instances he may have snuck that in a sermon? Thousands have responded to the news of the elder Furtick's passing by writing to the pastor via social media simple messages like "love and prayers," as did LifeChurch.tv Pastor Craig Groeschel. Im not sure why, at this point, youre still not acknowledging that this specific thing that Furtick taught is false. Matthew 24 gives us more: But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Id rather say that hes a fantastic teacher, that he carefully studies Scripture and clearly communicates Gods Word to his audience. First, that doesnt match what we read in Scripture. Ill address your use of Acts 5:38-39 first. While you (and I, at times) focus only on salvation, Jesus did not. So, to recap what you said; While its true that our faith can prompt God to act, our lack of faith cannot prevent Him from acting if He wants to. Theres some really helpful information in there. GodWords isnt really about me, so theres not much but you can find some info in the About GodWords pages, and my personal Facebook and Twitter accounts are linked at the top of every page. What can we say about these people? Sorrow and mourning will disappear, and they will be filled with joy and gladness. But, I also do not agree nor do I know where you get, I suggest that Paul knew less about following Jesus than I. I also did not initiate the idea Paul needed to be humbled, as I got that from Paul, who said that about himself; Lest I should be exalted above measure at the beginning of verse, 2 Corinthians 12:7 and to make it clear, he then repeated, Lest I should be exalted above measure again at the end of same verse. Ethnicity & Nationality. >> The problem is that people dont study the Word of God enough to understand. Lets see what the apostle John says in 2 John 1: Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. In case anyone wonders whether Furtick misspoke, theres more. Is that what Christianity is being saved? I cant turn my back on those who come to me for help and many are looking for answers who will never send me an email. The Father wasnt speaking. Steve Furtick Welding General Foreman. We must be careful to consider the cost when publically denouncing a man as a false teacher. He started in Lenox, MA and fled the area (for legal reasons) and continued to move around the country ultimately settling again in Baltimore, MD. Dont bother telling me how this person or that person helped you. Jesus obediently passed on to us the things that the Father told Him to say.

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